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On Further investigation... Here is a chat i just had with a Polish colleague of mine.. who has used Java alone for all his over 10years of work experience.. he actually dislike C++ from what he has tole me in previous times.. i called him Java_Architect for privacy reasonss... while i called a Nokia internal app i am we are working on XYZ.
here is the chat:
[2:50:04 PM] James Fowe: hi [2:50:34 PM] Java_Architect: Hi [2:50:40 PM] Java_Architect: how are you today? [2:50:45 PM] James Fowe: fine fine [2:50:58 PM] James Fowe: hopw u are doing good.. since you got back to Polland ? [2:51:18 PM] Java_Architect: pretty good [2:51:19 PM] Java_Architect: thanks [2:51:37 PM] Java_Architect: we are trying to start CC & PRA implementation [2:52:01 PM] James Fowe: ok great [2:52:16 PM] James Fowe: is it possible to run a J2ME application on Android ? [2:52:29 PM] Java_Architect: Not directly [2:52:37 PM] Java_Architect: but there are some runtimes that you can install [2:52:42 PM] Java_Architect: to run J2ME [2:52:51 PM] James Fowe: ok ok.. [2:52:58 PM] Java_Architect: but by default it's not possible [2:53:05 PM] James Fowe: why is google pushing the J2ME backward ? [2:53:13 PM] Java_Architect: by default Android runs a java platform that is platform specific [2:53:32 PM] Java_Architect: The phones are too strong to be limited by J2ME [2:53:49 PM] Java_Architect: J2ME does not look modern anymore [2:54:02 PM] James Fowe: how is J2ME a limitation ? [2:54:09 PM] Java_Architect: UI is very limited [2:54:13 PM] Java_Architect: you cannot apps in parallel [2:54:19 PM] James Fowe: oh i see.. [2:54:28 PM] Java_Architect: and apps can be killed by the platform without a warning [2:54:37 PM] Java_Architect: J2ME is designed for low spec phones [2:55:08 PM] Java_Architect: even for Symbian smartphones it's a legacy platform only [2:55:17 PM] Java_Architect: I believe it's Sun's fault [2:55:32 PM] Java_Architect: that they did not work too much to move j2me forward [2:55:39 PM] James Fowe: i see [2:55:39 PM] Java_Architect: Why are you asking? [2:55:47 PM] Java_Architect: Do you want to developep for j2me? [2:56:04 PM] Java_Architect: For Nokia devices QT is a recommended platform [2:56:06 PM] James Fowe: i was just thinking about the best direction to go .. either Qt or J2Me [2:56:15 PM] Java_Architect: I would say QT [2:56:24 PM] Java_Architect: unless you plan to develop for low end devices [2:56:28 PM] James Fowe: want to know exactlly.. why Qt is preferable.. [2:56:28 PM] Java_Architect: QT is pretty nice [2:56:34 PM] Java_Architect: From what I know [2:56:36 PM] James Fowe: ok ok [2:56:44 PM] Java_Architect: I only had a brief look at the platform [2:57:03 PM] Java_Architect: QT is cross platform [2:57:08 PM] James Fowe: what the Java equivalent technology.. that can produce nice UI's like the one in iPhone, Android and Qt [2:57:35 PM] Java_Architect: Actually the whole Android is Java [2:57:46 PM] Java_Architect: but it's different, mobile optimized JVM [2:57:52 PM] Java_Architect: it's called Dalvik VM [2:57:57 PM] James Fowe: yes yes.. [2:58:07 PM] James Fowe: i am talking of open source version from Sun/Oracle [2:58:43 PM] Java_Architect: Android is all open source [2:58:49 PM] Java_Architect: you can download its source code [2:58:58 PM] Java_Architect: Actually symbian is open source too [2:59:11 PM] Java_Architect: but I do not know if it is entirely open source [2:59:16 PM] James Fowe: yes i know.. but i am interested in the equivalent that came from Sun [2:59:49 PM] Java_Architect: it's probably non existend on mobile platforms [3:00:05 PM] Java_Architect: I would say that whatever you use to develop for mobile [3:00:12 PM] James Fowe: what of desktop platforms ? [3:00:21 PM] Java_Architect: it has to produce UIs that are consistent with native look of the platform [3:00:35 PM] Java_Architect: otherwise the user may find it diffucult to use the UI [3:00:49 PM] Java_Architect: and from what I remember J2ME failed to deliver in this area on Symbian [3:00:59 PM] Java_Architect: you could easily say this is not a native app [3:01:15 PM] Java_Architect: and also not every UI feature was available [3:01:26 PM] Java_Architect: like SQL DB functionality was not available [3:01:33 PM] Java_Architect: while it was accessible from a native SDK [3:01:37 PM] Java_Architect: and so on [3:01:56 PM] Java_Architect: If I wanted to develope for Nokia platforms I would go for QT [3:02:12 PM] Java_Architect: it's c++ but provides some automated memory management [3:02:14 PM] Java_Architect: java-like [3:02:20 PM] Java_Architect: it's all consistend APIs [3:02:23 PM] Java_Architect: not only for UI [3:02:39 PM] Java_Architect: but also for networking, xml, webservices and so on [3:03:01 PM] James Fowe: yea yea i get it [3:03:13 PM] Java_Architect: and J2ME is also pretty slow [3:03:28 PM] Java_Architect: When you use a XYZ client you can notice that sometimes it slows down [3:04:20 PM] James Fowe: yes yes thats true... [3:04:27 PM] Java_Architect: J2ME will still exist on low end phones [3:04:34 PM] Java_Architect: for small apps, games and so on [3:04:49 PM] Java_Architect: but never expect a full blown, complex apps on low end phones [3:04:58 PM] Java_Architect: XYZ is pretty complex for that kind of platform [3:06:10 PM] James Fowe: yea yea.. i agree
Regards -Fowe
_________________ Fowe. Choices make or mar Chances ... add extra care to your choices today.
It would be a lovely site to see @Fowe with his I love MSFT shirt and a crested Mug of MSFT Expresso while he busies himself with WP7. @Fowe just let me know when you get a Nokia WP7 phone for sample or dev build..Lets say I need exclusive just before it hits main stream 9ja market. I was going to start a topic arguing about Nokia's decision but I will let the matter rest. But think about this Nokia just saved MSFT in the mobile space. If they had gone android MSFT would have to close shop.its said MSFT threw a party after this was concluded. But does MSFT have what it takes to becoming a threat to Android and iOS. Well may be they do but they need to give users an experienced not seen before. They need to surpass that iOS and Android goodness. But till then we just wait until the first phone is out. And intending buyers should start planning for some Antiviral software as well. What would it take MSFT to take the lead in the mobile space.. OH here is a theory I play with --- Buy RIM . Nokia +MSFT + RIM = The Ballistic Trio
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